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Shub0xx
post Aug 25 2010, 02:06 PM
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Hi everyone,

Saw this online this morning: http://www.news.com.au/technology/apple-tr...0-1225909901032

Opinions anyone?


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soulink
post Sep 8 2010, 04:55 PM
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it definetly will not happen, a class action lawsuite would imediatly follow if this came into affect and i would be in on it biggrin.gif. Its just BS talk from apple trying to scare ppl biggrin.gif

If you buy and iphone, you OWN the phone not apple anymore, we can do what we want with it biggrin.gif

F@$K apple biggrin.gif
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post Sep 8 2010, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (soulink @ Sep 8 2010, 04:55 PM) *
If you buy and iphone, you OWN the phone not apple anymore, we can do what we want with it biggrin.gif

My way of looking at it, you may own the hardware, but they still own rights to the software, software development kit, and distribution of software and as such are within their rights to keep track of how their software is being modified and how widely modifications have been spread.
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post Sep 10 2010, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE (priorax @ Sep 8 2010, 09:01 PM) *
QUOTE (soulink @ Sep 8 2010, 04:55 PM) *
If you buy and iphone, you OWN the phone not apple anymore, we can do what we want with it biggrin.gif

My way of looking at it, you may own the hardware, but they still own rights to the software, software development kit, and distribution of software and as such are within their rights to keep track of how their software is being modified and how widely modifications have been spread.

But by the same token, if you REPLACE the software and SDK with a custom one that YOU own, this technology would almost certainly still function (as otherwise it would be too easy to circumvent).
(Edit: US precedent has ruled that jailbreaking is 100% legal anyway)

And instead of just allowing them to track which phones are hacked and notify the ISP, they actively, unnecessarily and aggressively violate your privacy. If a line serviceman for Telstra listened in on a conversation illegally he'd be fired on the spot and the company would press charges against him. Apple's proposal is a much deeper and much more serious breach of privacy; they can take images of you any time of day, no matter what you're doing and where you are. Make no mistake: what they're describing is extremely illegal.

As a result, I think it's extremely likely that they filed this patent as a publicity stunt to scare away jailbreakers. They're trying to frighten casual users who might have heard this as a rumour, or to tell the jailbreak/homebrew community that they could do all this if they really wanted to.


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post Oct 9 2010, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE (wolfmother @ Sep 10 2010, 08:35 AM) *
QUOTE (priorax @ Sep 8 2010, 09:01 PM) *
QUOTE (soulink @ Sep 8 2010, 04:55 PM) *
If you buy and iphone, you OWN the phone not apple anymore, we can do what we want with it biggrin.gif

My way of looking at it, you may own the hardware, but they still own rights to the software, software development kit, and distribution of software and as such are within their rights to keep track of how their software is being modified and how widely modifications have been spread.

But by the same token, if you REPLACE the software and SDK with a custom one that YOU own, this technology would almost certainly still function (as otherwise it would be too easy to circumvent).
(Edit: US precedent has ruled that jailbreaking is 100% legal anyway)

And instead of just allowing them to track which phones are hacked and notify the ISP, they actively, unnecessarily and aggressively violate your privacy. If a line serviceman for Telstra listened in on a conversation illegally he'd be fired on the spot and the company would press charges against him. Apple's proposal is a much deeper and much more serious breach of privacy; they can take images of you any time of day, no matter what you're doing and where you are. Make no mistake: what they're describing is extremely illegal.

As a result, I think it's extremely likely that they filed this patent as a publicity stunt to scare away jailbreakers. They're trying to frighten casual users who might have heard this as a rumour, or to tell the jailbreak/homebrew community that they could do all this if they really wanted to.


Anybody else seen the movie 'Eagle Eye'? Sounds familiar...


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