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Respawn LAN Forums _ Competition Rules _ TF2 6v6 Rules

Posted by: SirSquidness Jan 21 2010, 02:32 PM

These will be the rules used for TF2 6v6 at v16 and future events, unless otherwise noted

Respawn’s Team Fortress 2 Competition will be based upon the Oz Fortress Winter League Rule Set, with modifications to the structure to fit.

See http://www.ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=35266 for the original rule set.

Changes from the OWL:SE Rule Set:
These changes are in addition to the rule set, and where there are conflicts, these rules take precedence.




SUMMARY OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION

Exploits and cheats are disallowed.

Servers are pausable.

Class limits are


Critical Hits: Off
Damage Spread: Off
Fixed Weapon Spreads: On
Weapon Unlocks: Thread will be updated each LAN and posted on EMS. Will be done to suit either OZFL or the latest OWL competition.


SourceTV will be recorded on the servers. Demos are not required to be recorded by the players.


The OWL:SE Rule set is licensed under the Creative Commons Attibution - noncommercial - share alike 2.5 license. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/au/. http://www.ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=35266.

Posted by: Dekar Apr 7 2010, 06:44 PM

psst
it's actually 6v6, right?

Posted by: SirSquidness Apr 7 2010, 07:02 PM

I ... Uh... Yeah.

No idea how I managed to screw that up. Thanks for noticing.

Posted by: Fake Jun 22 2010, 12:05 AM

Are these rules being updated to the new OWL ruleset (few changes regarding unlocks and match formats)?

Posted by: priorax Jul 11 2010, 08:11 PM

Since this hasn't been discussed much.
OWL3 Ruleset http://www.ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=38111

I think we have kind-of been unofficially been playing by this for the last 2 Respawn's because when I ask at the front they say we are playing by the OWL3 ruleset.

Posted by: TheTacoMan Jul 27 2010, 08:45 PM

Buff banner is banned?

I can see crit-a-cola being banned because it's a random drop, but BB has a milestone linked to it, and it's not really OP as you have to give up your shotty.

Is the poor Sandman ever going to be unbanned?

Posted by: priorax Jul 27 2010, 09:06 PM

I think the main reason why it's banned is that it gives the whole team an advantage when pushing forward/defending which the opposition doesn't really have a good chance of holding their own against if used
well.

As for sandman, I doubt it.

Also, for crit-a-cola, very simple (and obvious) crafting combo, kritzkrieg + bonk

Posted by: Lemming Aug 31 2010, 12:34 PM

are the gunboats still banned?

Posted by: priorax Aug 31 2010, 03:49 PM

I'm guessing if this isn't decided pre-event we will decide on the night, just ask if we are playing with the OWL3 or OWL:SE ruleset.

Posted by: Lemming Sep 6 2010, 12:38 PM

QUOTE (priorax @ Aug 31 2010, 03:49 PM) *
I'm guessing if this isn't decided pre-event we will decide on the night, just ask if we are playing with the OWL3 or OWL:SE ruleset.


think they shouldn't be considering they arn't banned now and there not such a rare drop anymore.

Posted by: priorax Sep 6 2010, 05:16 PM

The current "official" TF2 rules for Respawn are based on the OWL:SE ruleset (done in 2009). Section 4H states:

QUOTE
Weapon Unlocks: On, except for the Sandman and Gunboats.


OWL3 Ruleset (2010) section 4H states:
QUOTE
Weapon Unlocks and Random Drops: Allowed, except for the Sandman, Buff Banner and Crit a Cola


Items are not banned due to the rarity of the drop, but because they give one player or team an advantage over the other.

Source: http://www.ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=38111#section4H

Also, they have continued to state:
QUOTE
All the engineer unlocks are banned from ozfortress competitions until further notice.
Moving buildables is allowed.


If you would like to read 29 pages of people complaining about item banning in competitive TF2. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1388193

Posted by: Lemming Sep 7 2010, 02:29 PM

biggrin.gif k well thanks for that babe!

Posted by: TheTacoMan Sep 28 2010, 05:58 PM

lemming is always full of shit

Posted by: priorax Oct 4 2010, 08:56 PM

Say, with the addition of all these new items at low-low pri... No, couldn't say that.]
Anyway, are we just straight banning or letting them all through or what etc?

Posted by: Dekar Oct 5 2010, 12:17 AM

common sense
all the new items you have to pay to obtain are banned

Posted by: priorax Oct 5 2010, 03:12 PM

Not true, all the new items can be either crafted or found through drops.
I found one of the new sniper items and 3 crates.
That being said
Crates are useless unless you play (not going to happen)
And I don't really play sniper, so that is just sitting there

Posted by: Fake Oct 6 2010, 06:48 PM

QUOTE (priorax @ Oct 5 2010, 03:12 PM) *
Not true, all the new items can be either crafted or found through drops.
I found one of the new sniper items and 3 crates.
That being said
Crates are useless unless you play (not going to happen)
And I don't really play sniper, so that is just sitting there


Regardless, they're all banned in the OWL ruleset pending balancing checks.

Posted by: TheTacoMan Oct 6 2010, 10:01 PM

I definitely think they should be banned.

Especially the item 'sets' that give you a massive bonus (+25 HP for scouts for example) just for wearing a hat.

There just has not been enough time for players to:

A: Acquire them (I'm still missing the scout pistol, and I play/trade fairly regularly)
B: Test them (No-one knows yet which combos give too big of an advantage)

Also remember that there were new mellees for both the Medic and Heavy, and while they seem fairly balanced, should also be banned in the interest of fairness

ALSO, priorax, that post on the SPUF is priceless. Why does the average TF2 player have a negative IQ? Some of the things they said were hilarious:

"At a guess, I'd say the lack of random crits makes it very hard to take down a wrangled sentry."

"Engineers are banned in comp. because they think it's skill less, like all the other class except Soldier, Scouts, Demomen, Medic and Snipers.
They're stupid."

"Basically if it can't easily be spammed out of existence..competitive players don't like it.
Because ya know..the more you spam the more professional you are."

"Spy stab and sap.
Sniper headshots Engi, team moves up and destroys sentry.

But oh well, most competetive players don't think out of their box"


Posted by: Guni Oct 11 2010, 10:57 AM

Are the gamestah recordings going to be up soon, if so could we get a link asap.

Posted by: priorax Oct 11 2010, 01:18 PM

Dear whoever was using the minisentry during the tournament,

While (as far as I know), these are illegal, thank you for the points.

Posted by: priorax Dec 9 2010, 11:14 PM

Allowed unlocks for OWL4: http://ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=40915

It's my suggestion that we run using this set of restricted unlocks.

Note: Some polycount items are allowed. But not all. Please read this.

Edit: The whitelist didn't seem to work properly, as this was an issue on my end, I won't hold anyone responsible for this, but before the next event, I will try and organize a day with Squid to figure out how to properly execute the whitelist.
Also, for some reason the servers were allowing 2 demomen, which it shouldn't have been able to do. I think it may have been running an 8-player config...

Posted by: priorax Jan 5 2011, 02:37 AM

New rule addition after last Respawn's PauseFortress 2 match:

Pausing during a match will be allowed. Under the following conditions. Teams may only pause between rounds (DURING setup). Each team may pause once per match maximum and for a time period of no longer than 5minutes. BOTH teams must agree to the pause and BOTH teams must give the all clear to un-pause.

To achieve Pause:
Make sure you have sv_pausable "1" set in server.
Then "pause" in rcon will pause the server.
To unpause type "pause" again in rcon.

Posted by: priorax Feb 20 2011, 02:44 PM

Updates to the weapon ban list: http://ozfortress.com/showthread.php?t=43818

Posted by: priorax Jun 10 2011, 09:36 PM

RE: v21 TF2 competition

Weapon unlocks:
If OWL6 goes the way it is looking like it will (stock + eq + kritz), I will be running the OWL5 or OZFL unlocks, this is because in the past few events, we have had majority of the players being pub players, so having quite a few unlocks, while not having ones that break the game, it seems like a good thing).

EDIT (21/06/2011): Due to the Uber Update, I will be using OZFL ruleset due to the fact it will be up to date, unlike OWL5. This is of course pending OWL6.

Maps I am considering (note, cp_gullywash_pro and cp_obscure_final will only be used in the grand final, if they are used at all):
cp_badlands
cp_granary
cp_gravelpit
cp_gullywash_final1
http://www.apoplexyservers.com/tf2/maps/maps/cp_obscure_final.bsp.bz2
http://www.apoplexyservers.com/tf2/maps/maps/cp_prolane.bsp.bz2 (modified version of cp_fastlane)
http://www.apoplexyservers.com/tf2/maps/maps/cp_warmfront.bsp.bz2 (modified version of cp_coldfront)
cp_well
cp_yukon_final
koth_viaduct

Server configs:
Official OWL ones, with SourceTV autorecord enabled, and with new items added to the item blacklist.

If you have any other map suggestions or anything like that, I am more than happy to listen. Unless you say 2fort...
If anyone wants a server thrown up during the LAN running any of those maps, or just a generic scrim server, feel free to either find me, or message me on Steam and I will do my best

Posted by: Plasia Jun 23 2011, 10:29 PM

What the heck are half of those maps?

Posted by: priorax Jun 23 2011, 10:58 PM

The ones that have links on them are custom ones used in OzFortress and are generally very balanced, the rest are official Valve maps that are used in OzFortress.

Other than that, I know you have played on all the Valve besides maybe Yukon, which was in OWL5, and recently in OZFL.

Edit: On quick research (ie. searching Squid's demo folder), cp_prolane was also run at v15

Posted by: priorax Oct 14 2011, 11:57 PM

While running this competition, I have generally tried to pick maps this way:
Stock maps for the first few brackets, see who is left after, if there are significantly more OzFortress players to non-comp players I will start to bring in custom maps, generally during the final I would have something like cp_gullywash as the tiebreaker for the final anyway.

So adding to the list above cp_gullywash_final1 in hopes that it means we don't have to use cp_well or cp_freight_final1 (great map for highlander apparently) again.

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