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post Jan 18 2009, 10:09 AM
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OK, so i've been to Respawn v1, v2, v3, and now v10. I have been to lans for many years and i can honestly say i've only been to one (>100 player) lan that sucked more then respawn v10 did for me.

Games:
-Played CS Source, TF2, Flatout, and Trackmania which all seemed to have a decent amount of people playing at any one time.

Network/Power/EMS:
-Power was up throughout the time i was there, network seemed fast (although 3-4 of the ports on the switch at my table didn't work, until zardoz did something to the switch iirc?)

Comps:
-I entered the Flatout and Trackmania comps. The flatout comp was run very well imo.

-Trackmania was a shambles - no one even finished the track after a whole hour because the person who ran the comp (lord phobos) seemed more interested in 'showing off' his self made track then running a decent competition. Immediately as the server went up, literally everyone in the server expressed how much of a retarded choice the track was for a comp. Sort of like running a Counter-Strike competition on fy_iceworld. Well done, thanks for wasting an hour of our time.

Other:
-Some of the admins weren't approachable at all and didn't want anything to do with you when you had a problem/query.

-The person sitting in the admin area to Miniwalks' left went off at me for 'interrupting Miniwalks game' when i asked Miniwalks where i could find Deadman. I'm sorry but saying 'over there' and pointing is hardly an interruption. I have no idea if this guy is actually an admin or a 'friend of the admins' who thinks hes a fucking champ because he gets to sit in the admin area, but he was sitting in the admin area infront of a computer, that's good enough for me.

For the record, what this person said was "piss off can't you see he's playing a game" or something a long those lines. I am shocked that an admin would say such a thing to a player.
I pay $25 and drive 40 minutes to go to a lan and be helped by the LAN staff, not to be told to fuck off because you're too busy enjoying yourself.

-Tables were packed in too tightly, only made worse by idiot players who thought they could block a whole aisle for 4 hours while they had a chat.

Overall, i think respawn falls down in many aspects, and some of the staff have a lot to learn about 'customer service' from higher quality lans like 3xtremeLAN. They need to learn that they are running a lan, not a show-off power-tripping popularity competition. Yes admins, this means taht you may have to do hard work, play less games and help people out, omg no wai!

Personally i don't think i can be bothered to go to another Respawn ever again. It's too far away for me, the service sucks, the venue isn't anything special and for 150TB+ on the DC hub, there wasn't much quality content to be had, mostly junk. Also don't even get me started on how allowing NON-HASHED clients is ridiculous in this day and age.

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To quote someone who may or may not have been involved with respawn lan in the past:
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yeah.. it weirds me out that admins think they are allowed to play games... thats how shafted got shafted

theyve been to a lan.. helped run a lan but have no concept of business, customers, customer service etc... all the important stuff.. they are just really lucky that half the gamers dont care


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post Jan 20 2009, 11:09 AM
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just a note one should only expect customer service from someone getting paid its not a job to them they are volunteering there time cut them slack
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post Jan 20 2009, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE (Glasseater @ Jan 20 2009, 12:09 PM) *
just a note one should only expect customer service from someone getting paid its not a job to them they are volunteering there time cut them slack


they are volunteering to do A JOB which is the same as a JOB where you get paid.

they volunteer because they want to do it not because they are forced.

that doesn't mean that we should expect no customer service from them


what you said makes no sense to me
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post Jan 20 2009, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE (tass @ Jan 20 2009, 12:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Glasseater @ Jan 20 2009, 12:09 PM) *
just a note one should only expect customer service from someone getting paid its not a job to them they are volunteering there time cut them slack


they are volunteering to do A JOB which is the same as a JOB where you get paid.

they volunteer because they want to do it not because they are forced.

that doesn't mean that we should expect no customer service from them


what you said makes no sense to me


But at the same time, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try and make their lives easier. They spend their weekend serving us, making sure things run smoothly, organising things. Running a LAN is no small feat, especially one of that size. Cleaning up after yourself takes very little time and effort (not to mention I think it's your own responsibility to clean up after yousrelf), but if 350 people dont' clean up after themselves, then that's a crap load of work for the people packing up that they really don't need/appreciate.


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post Jan 20 2009, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (SirSquidness @ Jan 20 2009, 03:04 PM) *
QUOTE (tass @ Jan 20 2009, 12:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Glasseater @ Jan 20 2009, 12:09 PM) *
just a note one should only expect customer service from someone getting paid its not a job to them they are volunteering there time cut them slack


they are volunteering to do A JOB which is the same as a JOB where you get paid.

they volunteer because they want to do it not because they are forced.

that doesn't mean that we should expect no customer service from them


what you said makes no sense to me


But at the same time, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try and make their lives easier. They spend their weekend serving us, making sure things run smoothly, organising things. Running a LAN is no small feat, especially one of that size. Cleaning up after yourself takes very little time and effort (not to mention I think it's your own responsibility to clean up after yousrelf), but if 350 people dont' clean up after themselves, then that's a crap load of work for the people packing up that they really don't need/appreciate.


I agree with that squid. I was polite to the admins the whole time and did clean up after myself wink.gif
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- TMM   Respawn Lan 10 Feedback   Jan 18 2009, 10:09 AM
- - tass   I have to agree with some points that you have men...   Jan 18 2009, 12:43 PM
- - neon   Not really being involved in many games (/shame) i...   Jan 18 2009, 06:59 PM
- - SLoV   seriously man how old are you ? like 14 grow up d...   Jan 18 2009, 07:34 PM
|- - TMM   QUOTE (SLoV @ Jan 18 2009, 10:34 PM) they...   Jan 18 2009, 07:56 PM
- - dead_man   QUOTE (tass @ Jan 18 2009, 01:43 PM) I ha...   Jan 18 2009, 07:52 PM
|- - tass   QUOTE (dead_man @ Jan 18 2009, 08:52 PM) ...   Jan 18 2009, 07:59 PM
- - dead_man   thats ok mate, we try to encourage the players to...   Jan 18 2009, 08:03 PM
- - neon   In light of the MASSIVE rego's for V10, the la...   Jan 18 2009, 08:07 PM
- - SLoV   well then what they guy said was stupid , you sho...   Jan 18 2009, 08:35 PM
- - neon   Yawn... TMM... its one thing to give "negativ...   Jan 18 2009, 10:24 PM
- - SirSquidness   As my first time at Respawn (and my first time at ...   Jan 18 2009, 11:11 PM
- - eskymobob   Hopefully this topic wont turn into a flame war an...   Jan 19 2009, 12:17 AM
- - eskymobob   oh yeah the food was great as always! thanks k...   Jan 19 2009, 12:19 AM
- - dead_man   bob thanks for the comments. ill talk to zardoz a...   Jan 19 2009, 07:50 AM
- - afromonster06   Well, I had an fantastic time. Congrats on a sweet...   Jan 19 2009, 09:29 AM
- - xbox_girl   I actually have to agree with 90% of the comments ...   Jan 19 2009, 11:51 AM
- - nato   I had a great time, catching up with a few people ...   Jan 19 2009, 12:47 PM
|- - neon   QUOTE (nato @ Jan 19 2009, 01:47 PM) My o...   Jan 19 2009, 01:27 PM
||- - SLoV   QUOTE (neon @ Jan 19 2009, 02:27 PM) QUOT...   Jan 19 2009, 02:41 PM
||- - TMM   opps double post.   Jan 19 2009, 05:41 PM
||- - TMM   QUOTE (SLoV @ Jan 19 2009, 04:41 PM) agre...   Jan 19 2009, 05:44 PM
||- - Sando   Keep it in mind that Respawn LAN is a non-profit o...   Jan 19 2009, 07:51 PM
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- - lime   Dot points seem the easiest way to do this: -Did ...   Jan 19 2009, 09:04 PM
|- - TMM   QUOTE (lime @ Jan 19 2009, 11:04 PM) -Did...   Jan 19 2009, 10:01 PM
|- - xbox_girl   QUOTE (TMM @ Jan 19 2009, 11:01 PM) QUOTE...   Jan 19 2009, 10:17 PM
|- - WooKiE_MaN   TMM ill make this plain and simple Your a nincomp...   Jan 19 2009, 10:21 PM
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|- - SirSquidness   QUOTE (dead_man @ Jan 19 2009, 10:10 PM) ...   Jan 19 2009, 11:32 PM
||- - Tank   QUOTE (SirSquidness @ Jan 20 2009, 12:32 ...   Jan 19 2009, 11:52 PM
|- - lime   QUOTE (dead_man @ Jan 19 2009, 10:10 PM) ...   Jan 19 2009, 11:47 PM
- - XECUTER   Guys this was my first ever proper lan. Had a fant...   Jan 19 2009, 09:31 PM
|- - SLoV   QUOTE (XECUTER @ Jan 19 2009, 10:31 PM) G...   Jan 19 2009, 09:43 PM
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- - neon   enough bitching! Lan was aweosome, end of s...   Jan 19 2009, 11:05 PM
- - WooKiE_MaN   QUOTE (neon @ Jan 20 2009, 12:05 AM) enou...   Jan 19 2009, 11:11 PM
- - Nemesis Hill   hey, this was my 2nd lan, first Respawn lan, and I...   Jan 19 2009, 11:39 PM
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- - tass   ill agree to that!!   Jan 20 2009, 05:55 PM
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