Last time the tf2 competition was a joke.

When you are able to run 5 engies as defence against only 5 people, it ruins the fun and competitiveness of the game.

I suggest that we run cevo class restrictions for the competition so that we avoid stupid situations like this again.

Cevo means that you can run:

2 soldiers
2 scouts
2 snipers
1 of every other class (pyro, demo, heavy, engy, medic, spy)

This will make the competition actually .... fair, but also possible to cap points / push the cart.

I would also like to see 5 point push/pull maps used rather than payload maps.

These would include cp_well, cp_granary, cp_badlands.

It would also be possible to run cp_gravelpit, but that tends to end up in a stalemate situation.

This is just my input, seeing as I play tf2 online actively in leagues.

But feel free to disagree with me, i'd like to hear your input.

You'll still be able to change classes on the fly with restrictions, just not able to stack a particular class for a particular situation (Scout rushes, or all engineer on defense are good examples of this). I still think a 2 class limit would be acceptable, as lets say one member of your team is playing spy and not doing too well, and you want to switch to spy to help him take out a particularly nasty sentry or something (there are other options for sentries, i know).

Thank you for explaining damage spread, i was a bit unsure myself what it was, and now that i have heard it does seem like a good idea to turn it off. I'm still in favor of crits, however, i feel they add a dynamic element to the game that makes it more exciting. I mean, sure, it sucks to walk out of spawn and get hit in the face with a crit scattergun shot, but man does it feel good to let loose a crit rawket into a group of unsuspecting players.

the issue of crits is as simple as this

is the tournament meant for lols and fun? crits on
or is the tournament meant to find out who's the better team? crits off

damage spread is pretty much a joke, its like crits, but instead it makes your guns weaker instead of stronger

pipes can do under 60 damage when hit directly with damage spread off, a meat shot can do under 60 as well, a scout can survive a head shot and there's plenty of other faults with damage spread off

crits on the other hand have more behind them, but personally I'm against them

class limits are a part of making the game balanced, if limits were never needed before because you need a "balanced" team to win, they would never have been concepted

its very easy for a team to stack 3 demos on a defense or stack other stupid amounts of classes
also having 1 medic limit allows the game to flow faster as people actually die and the medic becomes a lot more important

See this man knows what he's talking about, considering he is part of X5, one of the top div 1 clans.

Also will you be attending redact?

yes ill be attending, atticus confirmed himself aswell and he should be there too
any confirmation on the exact rules yet? :x
or have i missed a post

btw maps other than granary/badlands/well are fine
gravelpit may be a little stalematey, but its the best attack/def map in tf2, and its a VERY solid map, so it should be included somewhere hopefully

dustbowl is acceptable, fastlane, hell even turbine, all of these get played in big leagues around the world, just turbine/dustbowl have the most glaring flaws

but if you want more maps in the rotation, then this could be good

even though its a fun comp u should cater to the needs of the people who play TF2 seriously.

CEVO rules and class restrictions would be great.

Righto. I swear I already posted a reply in here a few days ago, but the reply must have been lost amongst all my firefox windows and tabs and never actually posted.

TF2 rules have been decided on.

It will be very similar to CEVO, but not identical.

Crits/damagespread off. Class limits similar to CEVO are in place. A few other misc settings here and there. Maps will be announced at the LAN.

And Rei, technically it's not a funcomp, it is a proper comp for Respawn. Fun, though it may be, it's not a funcomp per se. =D

hey as long as there's a 1 demo, 1 medic, 1 engy, 1 heavy restriction, i'm happy.

otherwise i might rage a little.

+ redact, need a slut?

Im thinking that Ill come out to this weeks meeting.

Linux has been a occational insterest of mine that Id like to get in more detail with.

But, I do game....quite a bit. Linux is not used on my primary computer for this reason.

Anyway, CSCC grows more and more every year. Maybe a few of you guys would like to come to a meeting or two of oursTonight 9PM, Brackett Hall room 224 and see how we run things. Weve had pretty good luck with getting money form the university over the past few years, maybe we can help?

ooooooooooook then...

you thought the same thing too eh?

I want to know wtf CSCC is. And where Brackett hall is! I'M INTERESTED! Money from the university. What could be better?