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post Sep 25 2011, 11:02 AM
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So it's Sunday morning and people are probably starting to leave the LAN.
To see the LAN improve we do appreciate your feedback!
Is there anything about this event you found particually good or bad?
Anything you think could do with improvement?
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SaddaM
post Sep 25 2011, 06:44 PM
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Horrible.

Starting from Beginning to Ending.

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The opening time of the LAN was terrible. I can assume that the delayed (10-20min) opening was important, but it's inexcusable considering you're running a business of sorts, you should have some sort of management in place to make sure your customers are happy - I came late, and it was still sad to see.

Once again, The prepaid line was extending out the building, while noticing the confirmed players had NO LINE. Fundamentally, We're the people that are your safeguard in money terms anyway. The sad thing is that this happened last LAN. Each line consisted of 2 validating team members, the same same as last LAN. Wouldn't you of learnt from the mistake last LAN - Which I made a clear note of last time I put my two cents in. I prepay for the extra benefits that entitles a greater assist over non prepaying members. I expect these benefits (I assume a faster validation is one of them.)

Turn-Up
The turn up was pathetic. That isn't your the Admin Teams fault however. It's like this was the Christmas holiday's event. It's just sad. I'm actually glad the Christmas Holidays Respawn was cancelled (Postponed Idk) Because it would of been a worse turn up of people.

Music
The music has been a growing improvement. It offered a variety - which is good. I'd like to say some were just terrible - But that's personal opinion, So I won't.

The Vibe
The vibe of a feel-good respawn wasn't there, well I personally didn't feel it. Most likely due to lack of people. At some points I was bored despite the fact I was at a computer with multiple games, chatting in an IRC etc. Possibly just me, but man I was just naturally disappointed.

BBQ
A bit late, 2 hours, didn't really bother me, wasn't hungry, but just goes back to managing effectively.

Hoodies
I enjoyed them, they actually gave incentive to come. They were something different, and something relatively new. Even though you offer T-Shirts every LAN - Which is still good, but a hoodie offers additional warmth - So good job.

Poker
Poker was reasonable. The only thing besides the prize money (As that relies on players - understandable) is the first round blinds. Although it's only minor, it effected everything. Ultimately the $10 chip was useless. You couldn't play it unless you exchanged for a $25, even then, the next round blinds couldn't do anything with them - unless you'd manage to get 5. To summarize it, Should of just included the 5-10 dollar blinds from last LAN.

Thats as much as I can remember, might extend on it in time.
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post Sep 25 2011, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (SaddaM @ Sep 25 2011, 06:44 PM) *
Once again, The prepaid line was extending out the building, while noticing the confirmed players had NO LINE. Fundamentally, We're the people that are your safeguard in money terms anyway. The sad thing is that this happened last LAN. Each line consisted of 2 validating team members, the same same as last LAN. Wouldn't you of learnt from the mistake last LAN - Which I made a clear note of last time I put my two cents in. I prepay for the extra benefits that entitles a greater assist over non prepaying members. I expect these benefits (I assume a faster validation is one of them.)


Queenie and myself do the pre-paid check-ins, the line is caused by ones that just stand there or the slackers that are too lazy to even bother writing down the bar code or printing it which results in us having them log into respawn site (it's only the way we can verify they are who they say they are). Sure a 3rd hand might help speed up the process slightly, but again if people fail to write/print bar code then existing problem will just continue.

EDIT: redacted (bad suggestion on my be half) If you do have any suggestions post here, otherwise feel free to pm me.
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SaddaM
post Sep 25 2011, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE (tricky @ Sep 25 2011, 07:36 PM) *
QUOTE (SaddaM @ Sep 25 2011, 06:44 PM) *
Once again, The prepaid line was extending out the building, while noticing the confirmed players had NO LINE. Fundamentally, We're the people that are your safeguard in money terms anyway. The sad thing is that this happened last LAN. Each line consisted of 2 validating team members, the same same as last LAN. Wouldn't you of learnt from the mistake last LAN - Which I made a clear note of last time I put my two cents in. I prepay for the extra benefits that entitles a greater assist over non prepaying members. I expect these benefits (I assume a faster validation is one of them.)


Queenie and myself do the pre-paid check-ins, the line is caused by ones that just stand there or the slackers that are too lazy to even bother writing down the bar code or printing it which results in us having them log into respawn site so we can check they are who they say they are other wise we have no idea at all. Sure a 3rd hand might help speed up the process slightly, but again if people fail to write/print bar code then existing problem will just continue.

I guess we could punish said people by not allowing them pre-paid next event, but i don't really see this fixing or helping improve the situation.


Exactly. And with that, I assume that's what happened last time, correct? Ultimately you can't change everyone. Personally I usually print mine, but my printer has decided to malfunction - not the point. What you could do is improvise.

I.E - An extra hand in validating.
- One less hand in the confirmed line so it at least looks even.
- Perhaps even someone going around confirming prepaid players before the doors open, that would take the shrink the massive line.

Ultimately the only thing punishing people would do is take away potential profit, losing the LAN money, etc.
OR
Punishing everyone would change the balance of the lines.
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post Sep 25 2011, 08:29 PM
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Well in contrast to the above, it took myself and my mates about 5 minutes to get through the line and into the lan and setting up, this was just simply due to the amount of people checking in, and when I actually checked in, by having my ticket number ready it was less then a minute.

As for the lan itself it was great, couldn't complain, and the liquid nitrogen cooled Overclockng was sweet, but if we had some kind of live stream of the progress or something it would have been better for everyone. Thanks to Warcom for my newly won mouse as well, great showing and sponsorship from them.

As for the music, I have no idea why its there. Im trying to listen to my game/newly acquired video and all I can hear is background music. I have to say though, the music was really really good selection wise.

We could use some more information about winners of comps and how they're going but aside from that, all good here. Stayed from opening to 2:30am. Oh, and the UT2004 comp, we installed to play that but becuase we didn't have the "collectors edition" it would have taken hours to download the textures and other data through UT itself, so we couldn't play. :<
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post Sep 25 2011, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (SaddaM @ Sep 25 2011, 07:55 PM) *
Exactly. And with that, I assume that's what happened last time, correct? Ultimately you can't change everyone. Personally I usually print mine, but my printer has decided to malfunction - not the point. What you could do is improvise.


Indeed. Generally speaking first 6 characters should be enough, but as to weather that's a wise idea of accepting pre-paid's is another thing.
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post Sep 25 2011, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (oodLes @ Sep 25 2011, 08:29 PM) *
Oh, and the UT2004 comp, we installed to play that but becuase we didn't have the "collectors edition" it would have taken hours to download the textures and other data through UT itself, so we couldn't play. :<



Not that it helps you now, the extra content is a free pack containing two or three extra maps. It's not a "collectors edition" of the game as such - it's just a patch. I didn't think it mattered whether the bonus map pack was installed on the server or not, as long as you had your gamepatched to the latest verison - 3389.


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post Sep 25 2011, 09:08 PM
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This was my first Respawn, and almost all I can say, is, amazing.

Sure, timings and set program guides may have been altered, but nothing and no one is perfect, and I liked it like that, having to be up front and having time to actually talk to other people, in flesh, meeting the admins, that sort of personal factor is the best part about LANs, not just playing games and crap.

So my opinion, is that there may be a few things that need adjusting, but nothing to any major extent.
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post Sep 25 2011, 09:42 PM
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Righto.

Seating
A power distribution box was slapped right in the middle of a line of booked seats, breaking the whole line forcing our group to split up. Why can't this be mapped or why can't the distro boxes be put in such a way where they don't affect seating? The seat booking system to actually book your seats is, as before, a complete disaster. A forum thread is not an appropriate way to do it.

Music
So, so good. Do not change.

Steam
What is the deal with it being some people on Respawn have zero problems connecting while others can't even login? Happens everytime and it's random.

FlatOut 2
Fun competition. Except for one of the organisers starting a game without everyone ready, ignoring us, then lying about telling us to get ready (still got screenshots of it). Unprofessional. We wouldn't have had to of started the entire thing again if you had of actually sorted it then and there...

Noise
Players weren't yelling as much as usual especially during the CoD comps etc, which is great. Nothing annoys me more than "pros" ruining the event for everyone else.

It was overall good and I've noticed the attitude of the Admins had improved since last LAN, which is a very good thing. I think it's underestimated how much that improves the atmosphere.
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post Sep 25 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (Worthless @ Sep 25 2011, 09:42 PM) *
FlatOut 2
Fun competition. Except for one of the organisers starting a game without everyone ready, ignoring us, then lying about telling us to get ready (still got screenshots of it). Unprofessional. We wouldn't have had to of started the entire thing again if you had of actually sorted it then and there...

Noise
Players weren't yelling as much as usual especially during the CoD comps etc, which is great. Nothing annoys me more than "pros" ruining the event for everyone else.


Please send the Screenshots to either R4N or Sirsquidness so they can follow this up.

and in regards to COD im not suprised. there was a fairly large tournament interrstate most of the Pro's went to tongue.gif


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post Sep 25 2011, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE (Worthless @ Sep 25 2011, 09:42 PM) *
Steam
What is the deal with it being some people on Respawn have zero problems connecting while others can't even login? Happens everytime and it's random.


I have seen that, most of the people who tend to have problems is usually related to out of date steam clients. I had a few auth problems myself but I used my 3G Tether to do the auth and then swapped back to the LAN connection to play. Every event I've attended, Valve tends to release updates on the day. The admin team have worked hard (see the LAN FTP with backups of the latest steam games so that if you own it legit in steam it will allow you to insta-update.

Hope this helps, but steam will always be a problem if Valve continues to roll out updates on their Friday which happens to be Respawn Saturday (needs less timezones to avoid)


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post Sep 25 2011, 11:41 PM
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If you keep steam up to date and you don't save your steam password, you can usually get into offline mode quickly by unplugging your network cable before opening steam, then plugging it in after it has loaded up in offline mode
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post Sep 26 2011, 09:46 AM
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I had fun, looking forward to the next LAN, I'll also bring a gaming PC to it.
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post Sep 26 2011, 10:02 AM
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Friendly people! Access wasnt too bad, Thanks to all the people who opened the door for me so i could go out for a smoke, i really appreciated it.

Im the guy on the crutches.
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post Sep 26 2011, 11:44 AM
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Pretty good LAN, the music was actually good this time. Just sucks we'll have to wait until next year for the next one.
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post Sep 26 2011, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE (SirSquidness @ Sep 25 2011, 08:58 PM) *
QUOTE (oodLes @ Sep 25 2011, 08:29 PM) *
Oh, and the UT2004 comp, we installed to play that but becuase we didn't have the "collectors edition" it would have taken hours to download the textures and other data through UT itself, so we couldn't play. :<



Not that it helps you now, the extra content is a free pack containing two or three extra maps. It's not a "collectors edition" of the game as such - it's just a patch. I didn't think it mattered whether the bonus map pack was installed on the server or not, as long as you had your gamepatched to the latest verison - 3389.


Yeah we had the 3389 patch, still had to download textures at 0.1% a second lol.
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post Sep 26 2011, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (oodLes @ Sep 26 2011, 03:28 PM) *
Yeah we had the 3389 patch, still had to download textures at 0.1% a second lol.


Damn, man. Sorry about that!


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post Sep 26 2011, 06:27 PM
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I quite enjoyed this one. Music was good, I had no trouble hearing announcements, etc. I just wish the chick's comp was a bit more organised - I had no idea what the games were and it started late, but then I guess it is a fun comp. There probably would have been more entrants if they knew what the games were. I think it clashed with the bbq, but this wasn't really an issue for me. I arrived at around 10:20am and had no troubles getting in by then. I think this may actually have been my fav Respawn yet. smile.gif

More girls need to enter comps though. Seriously, you don't need to come just to spy on your boyfriend or leech the latest season of Gossip Girl (seen both of these happen).


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post Sep 26 2011, 08:24 PM
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Anyone know how many people were at this Respawn?
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post Sep 26 2011, 09:52 PM
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From what I saw around 320~ from the looks of it. (rough estimate from a wander around)


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